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Talking with Hawkesbury Business Owner Darren Pead about Windsor Mall

Hawkesbury business owner Darren Pead is committed to the economic health of the district, and also passionate about how we present and promote our town centres, balancing renewal with enhancement of our wonderful heritage. We sat down and had a chat this week and it makes for a fascinating conversation.


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The sorry state of historic Bardenarang Creek, Pitt Town

The historic Bardenarang Creek at Pitt Town is a historic place but recent floods have left it in a very sorry state. I'm asking Council what can be done to repair the damage left by recent floods.


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Hawkesbury Council Rates 2022

Are you paying too much in Council rates? News from the 2022-2023 Hawkesbury Council Budget

Hawkesbury Council's rating system is broken and unfair. However, there are developments I'd like to share with you. In the budget Council will pass in the next two months there's a proposal to move the 'base rate' from 30% back to 50%. Read on to see how this will affect you.


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The Hawkesbury-Nepean River Floods – March 2022

The Hawkesbury-Nepean river has flooded again – the second time in twelve months, rising to 13.7m Here's some video of the effects of the flood.


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A New Accountability Measure – Report cards on Councillor Attendance and Expenses

You're entitled to expect that your elected Councillors turn up to as many meetings as they can. It’s a critical part of our job. So I moved a motion at Council to cause a report card on Councillor attendance and expenses to be presented annually and before elections.


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Condolence Motion for Dick Petrikas of Tennyson RFS

We lost one of the Hawkesbury Community's greats recently with the passing of Dick Petrikas from Tennyson, at the age of 83. I offered this condolence on behalf of Council after speaking with Dick's family.


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Professor David Flint AM and The Hon. Philip Ruddock AO

Celebrating 70 years of Her Majesty’s reign

I was honoured today to be invited to the official service to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the Accession of Her Majesty the Queen, with Her Excellency the Honourable Margaret Beazley AC QC, Governor of New South Wales and other dignitaries, held at St James' Church in Sydney.
What an absolutely extraordinary life our Queen has had. She has governed over the life of both our nation and the wider Commonwealth with grace and wisdom. She has been served by fifteen Australian Prime-Ministers...


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On ABC Breakfast Radio about Warragamba Dam (again)

This morning I was interviewed on ABC Sydney's Breakfast show by James Valentine. The well-worn subject was whether to raise Warragamba Dam. I appeared before on the same subject in 2019.


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Hawkesbury Council rejects critical flood safety measure – Again!

The long-awaited EIS has been released providing new details on the project to raise Warragamba Dam. I'm appalled that a majority of Councillors were so wedded to their ideology that, at last night's Council meeting, they voted down a motion to simply make a submission to the EIS consultation process. Shameful, reckless behaviour.


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How much land clearing should people be able to do for fire safety? The Rural Boundary Clearing Code

Here's a thorny question: How much land-clearing should rural landholders be allowed to engage in to increase their fire safety? Here's how I think we should answer that question.


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Granny Flats: You deserve more choice | Hawkesbury City Council

The way Council treats granny flats and dual occupancies in our area is insane. Some types are allowed in built up areas, but not on rural acreages. Some kinds are forbidden for reasons that don't apply to those suburbs, or become permissible just because a small modification is made to attach the dwellings. This needs to change.


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Hawkesbury Council’s position concerning the new Hawkesbury River bridge

Last night Council considered the submission we would make to the consultation process on the route of the new Hawkesbury River crossing at North Richmond.
My position is guided by an awareness that this is not Council’s project. Like the Windsor Bridge project before, we neither decide nor craft its appearance, budget or timeline...


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Ive offered no commentary about the Federal election, but my thoughts are assembling and Ill have something to say afterwards.

In the meantime, heres an analysis I did of how often each party has held Macquarie for the last 50 years.

Your thoughts? Consider this an open thread for any and all opinion on the election.

I've offered no commentary about the Federal election, but my thoughts are assembling and I'll have something to say afterwards.

In the meantime, here's an analysis I did of how often each party has held Macquarie for the last 50 years.

Your thoughts? Consider this an open thread for any and all opinion on the election.
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And in the last 50 years the Liberal Party have ignored us , as their “safe seat” its time we get the help and attention we deserve !! Susan has achieved great change during her time all whilst in opposition …. Highlighting the myriad of gaps and failings and fighting for our electorate. We need to keep her there and we need to get the change we deserve for the better !

I don’t believe number of days in office is a measure of effective representation. We’ve seen that at all levels of government. Also Macquarie as a seat has had multiple boundary changes over the years! We have had some terms when basically nothing significant has been done within the area. The seat has shifted demographically back and forth over time. We have been most fortunate to have a Local Member like Susan Templeman MP represent us and raise awareness about the issues we face. She has been a tireless advocate and an enormous support to many community members, especially during the period of cumulative disasters which have impacted us. Susan has brought relevant Government Ministers to our area to see firsthand what we are experiencing - even though her party is not in Government. To me, local representation is about having a voice capable of acting for everyone, and using that voice to achieve better things for all of us. There is widespread disillusionment with politics today - hence the emergence of more minor parties and independents. Susan is so much more than a product of a party - she has the capacity to translate her life experiences and skills into effective advocacy and gains for our area. It’s been good to see people carefully assessing how policies will impact their own situations and those of their families. Policies which give us, our children and grandchildren a brighter future are what informs my voting decisions. Overall I hope people value and respect their opportunity to vote.

Anyone would be lucky to have a local Member as active and engaged as Susan Templeman MP. She's out in the community every day listening to and supporting businesses, charities, older people, and younger people. And when she's not doing great work in the community, it's because she's in Canberra fighting hard for the people of the Hawkesbury and Blue Mountains. I think she's one of the finest Local Members in the country.

Nathan, people in Hawkesbury vote against their own interests when they vote Liberal. Rusted on liberals who do no analysis and just vote liberal because they always have or their family always has. That’s not taking democracy seriously. Susan Templeman MP has brought us into the 21st century and knows every suburb inside out. She has identified gaps and needs and advocated for them. SR only follows blindly along!

Boundaries have changed over this time. While interesting, not sure that this is an accurate representation.

My thought is that it's about time we gave it to someone else. Perhaps UAP or One Nation. Regardless of the personalities involved, their policies are generally robust.

Let's keep Susan Templeman MP Susan was our voice in Federal Parliament when we were fighting the State Government over a proposed road being put through many of our properties. She supported us and attended our meetings. Our State member, who is now Premier, ignored us. Deeds speak louder than empty promises made before elections. Thank you Susan ♥️

Please put a comma after the 6 😜. It seems to be in rough alignment with the number of days in the past 50 years that we’ve had a Liberal vs Labour prime minister (roughly 60:40 split)

They are all the same sadly

And here's to many more for the liberals 😁

Screwed either way…..:(

Not really an analysis Nathan. Also, the boundaries changed in 2009.

Your post is commentary and demonstrates your political leaning

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Barely three months ago I persuaded my Council colleagues to back a motion that would present an annual report card on Councillor attendance at meetings, briefings, committees and workshops, as well as better disclosure on Councillor expenses. 

It isnt a perfect measure of diligence, but given some Councillors in the past were known to take the pay and yet turn up to as little as possible, I felt this kind of accountability was just The Right Thing To Do. 

I was disappointed when several Councillors professed to be offended at the mere idea they could be held accountable. Barely weeks later they voted to halve the number of meetings Council would hold. 

Now theyre trying to walk back the whole idea and abolish this reporting on attendance and expenses. 
Tonights meeting has a rescission motion to undo our earlier decision. 

I think this is cynical and fails the pub test. The current national debate clearly shows there is support for accountability through a federal integrity commission.
I strongly encourage you to make your views known to Councillors and to pay attention to who votes which way on this one. 

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My earlier (successful) motion:
https://councillorzamprogno.info/2022/03/01/a-new-accountability-measure-report-cards-on-councillor-attendance-and-expenses/

Barely three months ago I persuaded my Council colleagues to back a motion that would present an annual report card on Councillor attendance at meetings, briefings, committees and workshops, as well as better disclosure on Councillor expenses.

It isn't a perfect measure of diligence, but given some Councillors in the past were known to take the pay and yet turn up to as little as possible, I felt this kind of accountability was just The Right Thing To Do.

I was disappointed when several Councillors professed to be offended at the mere idea they could be held accountable. Barely weeks later they voted to halve the number of meetings Council would hold.

Now they're trying to walk back the whole idea and abolish this reporting on attendance and expenses.
Tonight's meeting has a "rescission motion" to undo our earlier decision.

I think this is cynical and fails the 'pub test'. The current national debate clearly shows there is support for accountability through a federal integrity commission.
I strongly encourage you to make your views known to Councillors and to pay attention to who votes which way on this one.

Please like and share if you agree.

My earlier (successful) motion:
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Update: Hills Shire Council have reported on this for years.

Update: Hills Shire Council have reported on this for years.

I agree with Nathan on this. Already we have half the number of meetings we used to have, a questionable committee system, and now calls for reduced accountability measures. Also on the agenda tonight is an item around Councillor remuneration, payment of expenses etc. - my guess is an increase in allowances will be supported by the same people seeking to rescind this motion delivering accountability. More money for less accountability - shameful!

We should all be backing transparency and accountability at all tiers of government. I watched the initial Council meeting and was underwhelmed by our representatives, but then again, I'm often underwhelmed by some of them.

Everybody in every position should be held accountable especially those in public office allocating public funds . Keep up the good work Nathan and thank you for outing the 3 councillors

I agree with Nathan. I have no problem with this level of transparency. Public money, public accountability.

Just want to make something crystal clear to Labor councillors: I'm a centre left voter (I'll be voting for Susan on the 21st), but after this apalling show the Labor candidates in any future council elections can forget about my vote as long as Barry Calvert is on the ticket. I expect this sort of self-interest from those on the other side of politics -it makes me far more disappointed and angry when it comes from my own side.

In any organisation, the employee is fully accountable to its employer. Of course it should be reported on…I’d like to know the reasoning of any councillor who objects to it.

The excuses being given at tonight’s Council meeting are pathetic. The tone of the Liberal councilors is disgusting.

Silly, isn't it, that I, and the general public, just assume that there is proper accountability at all levels of public service, and of all levels of elected officials. So, let me get this right. Employed staff must account for and justify all their expenses, but the elected elite are not accountable to the very people who voted them in? No wonder people are disillusioned with the major parties.

Thank you Councillor Nathan Zamprogno and I agree. Transparency and accountability should be strongly supported. It will not go unnoticed how the vote goes on this motion.

Shame on those supporting this.

It’s a very common accountability for many boards and other governance good practice. A very bad look council especially when people are looking for integrity in government.

Really. How outrageous. Half the meetings and no accountability...wouldn't everyone like a job like that? Of course we know the Mayor will use his casting vote to approve this.

OMG they care not for The Hawkesbury, only themselves and their financial gains. Why am I not surprised. They'll then need to increase rates, yet again, to pay for the 'holes' they make !

Is it a coincidence that it both the labour and liberal party members that want this? What a disgrace.

Is there no code or legislation to state this needs to be transparent and also regarding the constant use of the mayors use of the casting vote.

Why would they want to be accountable, they are politician's

As a Councilor you should be aware that 90% of the information required by the motion is already being done this is really you grandstanding .

Well, given that you're yet to reply to an email I sent you well over a week ago, isn't this a bit rich?

Shame, Council, shame!

Nathan, is there anything preventing some private person or group from publishing the record of attendance of our esteemed councillors? Like after every meeting, with an annual tally as well? Maybe we can force some accountability on these bastards, to keep them honest...

That is very concerning. Perhaps pass this to the ICAC for perusal. Sounds a bit like a couple of other councils that got in real trouble for doing this.

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Im a teacher, and youth mental health is a subject very dear to me. 
The school where I work was privileged today to have Rachel Downie come and talk to us. Rachel is the founder and director of Stymie, a bullying, harm and wellness reporting tool that can be used by participating schools which lets young people access help if they or someone they know are in distress.

Youd recognise Rachel from her appearance on Australian Survivor last year, but she was also honoured to be appointed as the Queensland Australian of the Year in 2020.

Kids navigate a world more complex than any we grew up in. Social media means that the boundaries between bullying at school and home no longer apply. Rachels message was really powerful. Stymie is a welcome addition to the support they can access, along with Kids Helpline.

https://www.racheldownie.com

I'm a teacher, and youth mental health is a subject very dear to me.
The school where I work was privileged today to have Rachel Downie come and talk to us. Rachel is the founder and director of Stymie, a bullying, harm and wellness reporting tool that can be used by participating schools which lets young people access help if they or someone they know are in distress.

You'd recognise Rachel from her appearance on Australian Survivor last year, but she was also honoured to be appointed as the Queensland Australian of the Year in 2020.

Kids navigate a world more complex than any we grew up in. Social media means that the boundaries between bullying at school and home no longer apply. Rachel's message was really powerful. Stymie is a welcome addition to the support they can access, along with Kids Helpline Official.

www.racheldownie.com
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I love my Mum, and she’s the absolute spine of our family. She taught me the value of family, respect and hard work. Thank you to all the mums out there, and my thoughts are with those who can’t celebrate today with theirs. 

I shouted mine a lunch harbour cruise today. The weather was perfect!

I love my Mum, and she’s the absolute spine of our family. She taught me the value of family, respect and hard work. Thank you to all the mums out there, and my thoughts are with those who can’t celebrate today with theirs.

I shouted mine a lunch harbour cruise today. The weather was perfect!
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Your mum certainly is a treasure....and what perfect weather to be on the harbour...💖

The #hawkesburyshow is wonderful this year. To me it’s a powerful proof of a return to normality.

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Beautiful shot! Greetings, Nathan! I hope you and the fam are well!!

A great 3 days for the community!🎉🎉

Great photo Nathan.

Hawkesbury business owner Darren Pead is committed to the economic health of our city, running Guy Stuff Windsor, Lollies 'N' Stuff - Windsor and Delicious Desserts - Windsor – all in Windsor Mall.

He’s also passionate about how we present and promote our town centres, balancing renewal with enhancement of our wonderful heritage.
Council has spent the last three years developing a strategy for renewal in our town centres as part of our participation in the $18.75M Western Sydney City Deal 'Parkland City Liveability Program'. Darren has travelled the world to look at how other historic townships put their heritage front and centre, and asks if we’ve gotten the mix right given the plans now on display for Windsor.

Recently the community (and the Chamber, via a Notice of Motion brought by my colleague Councillor Shane Djuric) affirmed it wants the Rotunda and the gas lanterns preserved and restored in Windsor Mall, but Darren points to the huge proportion of the available budget (~$10M of the ~$19) being lost to just one aspect - uprooting and relaying all the paving, when repairs to the existing paving (badly needed - no argument) could unlock millions to get better value from the project as a whole. Worse, the disruption to businesses will be significant.

I don’t want to see wrought iron seating replaced with sterile, Westfield-style bland street furniture.
A heritage trail could link Windsor Station to Thompson Square with medallions embedded in the pathways and an extension of heritage-styled lanterns down George St.

Darren and I would like to see the plan - otherwise excellent, given one more pass by Councillors to ensure that the money is spent where it will do the most good.
We sat down and had a chat this week and it makes for a fascinating conversation.

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Brilliant presentation Nathan, and thank you for speaking to Darren, who is a passionate man with great vision. Darren isn’t on his own as many people support his views and concur that the old town in Windsor is something very special that deserves special attention, and I believe that it’s imperative that we get the revamp right, particularly around featuring our amazing gas lamps

Thank you Councillor Nathan Zamprogno and Darren Pead for this presentation. The fabric and upkeep of our Windsor Mall has been neglected for far too long. We have an opportunity now to thoughtfully and sympathetically undertake works that will respect and highlight the heritage aspects and also improve the experience of both local and visiting business patrons and others. The gas lamps can be a wonderful drawcard and their ambiance when properly lit at night is unparalleled.

This is terrible get your act together @Hawkesbury Council me and my friends met up for lunch not long ago and one of the ladies tripped on one of the pavers she ended up with a bruise on her face and legs and was very shaken up just not good enough 😡

So much potential. Put the councillors on a bus to Beechworth and let them see how it's done! (And we r so close to Sydney too).

Jade Lucy

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Pitt Town local Gordon Douglas was on the phone with me, as he often is. "Nathan, have you seen the state of Bardenarang Creek since the floods? It's terrible!"

That afternoon I went to the famous Friendship Bridge on Pitt Town Bottoms Road to see for myself, and saw the reason for his concern.
Repeated floods have left the creek in a very sorry state, with tattered plastic sheets from local farms spectrally draped in all the trees and choking the waterway.

The site has significant historic importance too. This was the site of the very first meeting between Europeans and the Darug Aborigines in 1791.

When I helped locals pull tonnes of rubbish out of that creek at a Clean Up Australia event a few years ago, I saw local pride in caring for our environment. But this is beyond the ability for volunteer groups to remedy due to the volume of debris and safety concerns.

I've raised this with Council staff to see whether creek-cleanups like this can be scheduled into our ongoing flood recovery works.
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We have property down in the Bottoms and when I was down there with my son the other we day were talking about this exact issue. It is such a sorry sight to see and we were wondering what was going to be done about getting it cleaned up and who’s responsibility it is to get it happening…

Great video, Hopefully you make some traction with the council.

Could you come down and look at Lagoon road Pitt Town it has been impacted as well. Our unsurfaced road is of great concern what little bit of asphalt we have at the entrance is eroding and potholes the size of craters. We also have debris still waiting to be collected.

Can you come and look at Killarney chain of ponds creek it’s a joke as will

Good on you Nathan

Omg that road is stuffed! My friend and i went for a drive down there last Saturday and her little car almost got lost in the huge craters down there! just like Smith rd Old Stock Route rd as well so many problem roads in the hawkesbury!

Lisa Bissett-Dick

Ruth Waddell

Thank you Councillor Nathan Zamprogno It’s much worse than last year’s flood. I’m a local and I ride my bike down there regularly and it breaks my heart to see it in that condition. If you need volunteers to help with the clean up (if it’s at all possible) please reach out.

Lauren Gilbert

Alysha Wood

Fallon O'Brien-Whitehouse

There’s mess like this in all the waterways including the mighty river. How about you talk with your buddy, state member Robyn Preston. It’s more than locals can do and it’s more than council can do. Perhaps our superior advocate Susan Templeman MP should be called for help. Labor has money for local waterways.

Cheryl Sheath

😳looks like Halloween down there

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With a Federal Election looming, it’s good to be reminded of our majestic Australian Constitution. Found this while tidying the study.

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Are we operating under the Constitution of The Commonwealth of Australia or The Constitution of The Corporation of Australia?

Sounds about right.

Needs a few changes!

It’s not far wrong 🤣🤣🤣

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In a world turned upside down, it’s fitting to see one thing put right. 
I joined huge crowds at dawn in McQuade Park in Windsor and later at Pitt Town for ANZAC services that are back to pre-COVID attendance. 
I hear good crowds were also present at services at Richmond, Kurrajong and Wilberforce. 
Judging by the excellent turnout of young people, plus delegations from schools, scouts, guides and cadets, the legacy is in good hands. 

Our commemoration transcends the remembrance of any one military action. It represents a public act of respect of the ANZAC virtues of courage, service, mateship and endurance which comes from a deep wellspring within our national character. 

When we say “We will remember them”, we remember those who served and the fallen. But it’s also a pledge to fulfil the same spirit towards one another. 

The way we stand by one another in times of trial — pandemic, flood or fire — is a civil manifestation of that spirit. 

Lest we forget.

In a world turned upside down, it’s fitting to see one thing put right.
I joined huge crowds at dawn in McQuade Park in Windsor and later at Pitt Town for ANZAC services that are back to pre-COVID attendance.
I hear good crowds were also present at services at Richmond, Kurrajong and Wilberforce.
Judging by the excellent turnout of young people, plus delegations from schools, scouts, guides and cadets, the legacy is in good hands.

Our commemoration transcends the remembrance of any one military action. It represents a public act of respect of the ANZAC virtues of courage, service, mateship and endurance which comes from a deep wellspring within our national character.

When we say “We will remember them”, we remember those who served and the fallen. But it’s also a pledge to fulfil the same spirit towards one another.

The way we stand by one another in times of trial — pandemic, flood or fire — is a civil manifestation of that spirit.

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Strong turnout at Richmond this morning. My estimate is 1-2 thousand. Great to be able to come together again and remember those who died that we may live free. Lest we forget.

Tonight residents and business owners from Cornwallis and the river lowlands met in Richmond to talk to myself and fellow elected representatives about their frustrations about government responses to two years of flooding. 
They have reason to be aggrieved. 

A huge gash in the main tributary drain cutting Cornwallis Road which was not repaired after the 2021 flood is now a yawning chasm over 100m wide. 

A streamlined process to approve urgent remedial riverbank works, promised by the State government is still not forthcoming, leaving Council by law to require onerous bureaucratic reports and full DA’s. 
One said it was ridiculous to be in a situation where it would be both quicker and cheaper to do the required works without permission and to pay a fine. I can’t disagree. 

The ownership of drains or knowledge of their state of repair is patchy, and the changes to the landscape means some no longer work effectively. 

Most present saw the urgent need to raise Warragamba Dam as a key part of efforts to mitigate risk (the 2021 flood would have been 3.5m lower had the dam already been raised).
Years of development elsewhere in the catchment have created huge areas of hard surfaces and changes to runoff have affected the speed and behaviour of floods along the River and along South Creek. 

Landowners described properties covered in over a meter of silt and little confidence on how to proceed until the drains and culverts are repaired to resist the ingress of water from the river in even minor future flood events. 

Patrick Conolly - Mayor of Hawkesbury updated the room with Council’s efforts to commence works, establish a reference committee of landowners, and bid for funds to “build back better” rather than to the former standard. Council is engaging with DRNSW Public Works Advisory to finalise designs and get moving. 
He also made in my opinion a telling admission that some drainage works associated with development at Pitt Town have major issues and are not fit for purpose. 

We’ve got a lot of work to do! I’m grateful to Jess from Abulk Turf  for her initiative in rallying her local community, to Paul and Charlie Saliba, to Jenny from Turf Australia, to Matthew from Rural financial services, and to Andrew from Resilience NSW for their contribution.

Tonight residents and business owners from Cornwallis and the river lowlands met in Richmond to talk to myself and fellow elected representatives about their frustrations about government responses to two years of flooding.
They have reason to be aggrieved.

A huge gash in the main tributary drain cutting Cornwallis Road which was not repaired after the 2021 flood is now a yawning chasm over 100m wide.

A streamlined process to approve urgent remedial riverbank works, promised by the State government is still not forthcoming, leaving Council by law to require onerous bureaucratic reports and full DA’s.
One said it was ridiculous to be in a situation where it would be both quicker and cheaper to do the required works without permission and to pay a fine. I can’t disagree.

The ownership of drains or knowledge of their state of repair is patchy, and the changes to the landscape means some no longer work effectively.

Most present saw the urgent need to raise Warragamba Dam as a key part of efforts to mitigate risk (the 2021 flood would have been 3.5m lower had the dam already been raised).
Years of development elsewhere in the catchment have created huge areas of hard surfaces and changes to runoff have affected the speed and behaviour of floods along the River and along South Creek.

Landowners described properties covered in over a meter of silt and little confidence on how to proceed until the drains and culverts are repaired to resist the ingress of water from the river in even minor future flood events.

Patrick Conolly - Mayor of Hawkesbury updated the room with Council’s efforts to commence works, establish a reference committee of landowners, and bid for funds to “build back better” rather than to the former standard. Council is engaging with DRNSW Public Works Advisory to finalise designs and get moving.
He also made in my opinion a telling admission that some drainage works associated with development at Pitt Town have major issues and are not fit for purpose.

We’ve got a lot of work to do! I’m grateful to Jess from Abulk Turf for her initiative in rallying her local community, to Paul and Charlie Saliba, to Jenny from Turf Australia, to Matthew from Rural financial services, and to Andrew from Resilience NSW for their contribution.
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Raising the dam wall or not , whoever is in control of letting water out needs to be removed . They had ample warning on how much water was coming in and yet they held onto it . I’ve said this before everyone living on the river expects floods however the damage could have been lessened if the muppet who makes the decisions was actually proactive and started letting water out earlier. It needs to be done by someone who can actually manage this correctly

Raising the dam wall is not the answer,in my opinion and the opinion of many wise people.we said that Redbank and Pitt Town had big problems but the pro development group had the numbers to push these substandard developments through. The same will happen with the dam wall. I’m loosing hope for the Hawkesbury.

It is more important to accept that a flood plain makes great farmland if drainage etc is properly maintained and managed.

Probably about time someone told people on the Lowlands and Cornwallis that raising the dam wall will prolong low level flooding and increase river bank erosion, the very problem they have now. It won’t matter to farmers at Cornwallis if the peak is lower - they’ll still be under water and the longer inundation will destroy their crops anyway.

Re. Raising the wall I still don’t comprehend why farmers in the Hawkesbury want to stop or even lessen the very phenomenon that makes their livelihood possible. If the Hawkesbury valley hadn’t flooded since T Rex was walking around, All lowland farming wouldn’t exist. For it to continue into the future, regular flooding of the Hawkesbury Valley is critical. Educating people how to live with flooding rather than stop it is always going to be more sustainable.

Land developers also have a key responsibility taking into account the environmental impacts both the land the are developing for housing and the flow on effect in other communities. Too many houses not enough green space. Land stripped of vegetation, not enough land to construct proper gardens and grow trees. Environment, community, climate change etc should all come before profit. Forward planning for the safety of all communities and the planet should come first and take into account drought floods etc.

There seems to be larger floods and longer lasting floods, more water. Let’s look at that at Pitt Town and the water exiting South Creek. It doesn’t take a rocket science to look at the Hills of Carmel and Marsden Park and see every one of those roofs has a drain pipe catchment flowing to the Hawkesbury where rain use to fall on the ground. Developments on this plain are part of the issue. Direct water flow contributions. These land sales are all being placed around transport development plans as well. The Hawkesbury’s north Richmond bridge and Richmond road to link the mapped out Motorway through Maraylya to the north eventually meeting the Mount White area. This is all to connect the western airport to the north. I don’t think people have any real say, these things are decided.

Christine Paine, sadly Patrick Connolly and Les Sheather tried to use the forum to promote their own political purposes and agenda, namely raising of the dam wall. There was far more to the meeting than that and it just highlighted how disinterested they were with the very serious problems we are facing on the Lowlands. Farmer have lost millions of dollars in contracts, most of the land is unusable and will be for the foreseeable future. Horses and cattle were evacuated and haven’t returned months later. No one there tonight knew when they would return. It is a disaster down here, not a flood disaster but a man-made flood disaster that should have been fixed a year ago but no one listened to us. Nothing happened and tonight we are told a temporary solution could take many months. We could flood again in a few weeks. Robyn Preston didn’t bother turning up. Sarah Richards said nothing. Disgraceful

I know you are wedded to raising the dam Nathan, but did anyone tell the lowlands residents that while the flood peak would be approx 3M lower, the duration of that peak would be up to 16 days?

Sorry to say but all the meetings won’t make a difference. Too many levels of governance and little action. From bridge rails being destroyed to pot holes everywhere and drains being overgrown and not operational and all we hear is it’s not our responsibility. If I operated as efficiently as local council I would be bankrupt. Please council do your job you have been elected by the people

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