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The debacle that is the Grose River Bridge project

When the Redbank developers promised they'd build a bridge across the Grose River back in 2012, they said the bridge would be completed by the time the development had sold 641 lots. It's now ten years later, the Redbank estate has sold over 700 lots, and not a single sod has been turned. I am unhappy, and you should be too...


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Should we lower Warragamba Dam instead of raising it?

Last week the Mayor advanced a motion at Council that calls on the State Government to change legislation regulating the operation of Warragamba Dam to permit the Dam to be lowered in times of likely high-rainfall which will provide a degree of flood mitigation ability.
I supported the motion, but I want to be very clear that lowering the *operating level* of the dam is not a substitute for *raising* the dam wall, which remains the best way to properly mitigate floods. Here's why...


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The Australian Local Government Assembly – What Hawkesbury can learn from a bigger picture, especially as it relates to natural disasters

Just before the floods overtook us all, I attended the Australian Local Government Assembly (ALGA) down in Canberra, an annual conference that pulls together the 537 local governments around Australia. Our focus is the bigger picture of local government as it relates to the nation as a whole – a perspective that I believe my colleagues often misunderstand because they express little interest in the subject. Presciently, a lot of what we heard about was about the increasing cost of natural disasters, and the disproportionate burden placed on Councils in the repair and cleanup.


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July 2022 Hawkesbury floods

The Hawkesbury-Nepean flood of July 2022 – the worst since 1978

July 5th 2022 represented the worst day of flooding in the Hawkesbury in 44 years. This flood exceeded 13.93m, beating both the March flood (13.71m) and the 2021 flood (12.91m), each measured at the Windsor gauge.
I toured the district, commiserated with locals, and took note of what I saw. This video represents the waters as they peaked. Councillors are being briefed daily by Council staff and we're proactive in guiding the response to the emergency.


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How the community rallied to clean up Pitt Town creeks after the floods

Two months ago I raised the terrible condition of Bardenarang Creek at Pitt Town after the March floods. Well, the community has rallied magnificently to help clean up the creek through the co-ordination of the resident's group, Council, and volunteer organisation Disaster Relief Australia and their corporate partners.


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Long-delayed road sealing program gets underway

Recently residents of Vineyard and Oakville witnessed the welcome sight of the dirt sections of Old Stock Route Road and Brennans Dam Road being sealed. Finally! I had been agitating for this since my election in 2016.


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Sky News Australia special report into flooding on the Hawkesbury-Nepean River

The Hawkesbury-Nepean River will flood again. It's a statistical certainty. I am heartened a major news outlet like Sky News Australia have recently run a four part investigative series on the subject on their Sky Weather channel. What they had to report should concern everyone in the Hawkesbury, Penrith, Hills and surrounding communities subject to flooding. Here is the whole video and some things I learned recently at a national conference where we discussed the increasing risk of natural disasters.


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The family home flooded because they live next door to development

After the March 2022 floods, for one family in Oakville, finding their lounge room flooded with water was the last thing they should have expected, because they live near the top of a hill. The reason was developers next door. Here's what happened, and how Hawkesbury Council's lack of responsiveness to entreaties for help has led them to choose to go public.


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Talking with Hawkesbury Business Owner Darren Pead about Windsor Mall

Hawkesbury business owner Darren Pead is committed to the economic health of the district, and also passionate about how we present and promote our town centres, balancing renewal with enhancement of our wonderful heritage. We sat down and had a chat this week and it makes for a fascinating conversation.


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The sorry state of historic Bardenarang Creek, Pitt Town

The historic Bardenarang Creek at Pitt Town is a historic place but recent floods have left it in a very sorry state. I'm asking Council what can be done to repair the damage left by recent floods.


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Hawkesbury Council Rates 2022

Are you paying too much in Council rates? News from the 2022-2023 Hawkesbury Council Budget

Hawkesbury Council's rating system is broken and unfair. However, there are developments I'd like to share with you. In the budget Council will pass in the next two months there's a proposal to move the 'base rate' from 30% back to 50%. Read on to see how this will affect you.


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The Hawkesbury-Nepean River Floods – March 2022

The Hawkesbury-Nepean river has flooded again – the second time in twelve months, rising to 13.7m Here's some video of the effects of the flood.


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e-Scooters are convenient, environmentally friendly, and fun. I think that the Hawkesbury would benefit from having them in our city. Theyre just like any scooter, but with a rechargeable battery and an electric motor. 

Ive recently visited a number of cities that have them, including Canberra, Hobart and Launceston (which is roughly the same size as the Hawkesbury). I was impressed by how the technology has matured. 

Most states legalised them years ago. Sadly, NSW have dragged their heels. In our state e-Scooters (both private and rental) are bizarrely still completely illegal. But this is changing.

In April 2022, the Transport Minister Rob Stokes announced a trial program. Any NSW Council can express interest in joining the trial, and Im moving a motion to next Tuesdays Council meeting for us to do just that.

Their operation is clean, green and silent. They represent an opportunity for us to be at the vanguard of an emerging transport mode that will potentially take cars off the road, free up car- parking spaces in congested town centres, promote tourism, recreational use, improve accessibility, and stimulate the economy.

Council does not need to run or even establish the commercial viability of a rental market – commercial providers make their own decisions about that, but Council should create a regulatory environment where this innovative technology can flourish. There are addressable issues about safety and where they are left but other cities have managed to do this successfully.

My notice of motion is at the link below. Id like to think this initiative will have broad support.

https://councillorzamprogno.info/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Notice-of-Motion-e-Scooter-trial-8thAugust2022-meeting.pdf

e-Scooters are convenient, environmentally friendly, and fun. I think that the Hawkesbury would benefit from having them in our city. They're just like any scooter, but with a rechargeable battery and an electric motor.

I've recently visited a number of cities that have them, including Canberra, Hobart and Launceston (which is roughly the same size as the Hawkesbury). I was impressed by how the technology has matured.

Most states legalised them years ago. Sadly, NSW have dragged their heels. In our state e-Scooters (both private and rental) are bizarrely still completely illegal. But this is changing.

In April 2022, the Transport Minister Rob Stokes announced a trial program. Any NSW Council can express interest in joining the trial, and I'm moving a motion to next Tuesday's Council meeting for us to do just that.

Their operation is clean, green and silent. They represent an opportunity for us to be at the vanguard of an emerging transport mode that will potentially take cars off the road, free up car- parking spaces in congested town centres, promote tourism, recreational use, improve accessibility, and stimulate the economy.

Council does not need to run or even establish the commercial viability of a rental market – commercial providers make their own decisions about that, but Council should create a regulatory environment where this innovative technology can flourish. There are addressable issues about safety and where they are left but other cities have managed to do this successfully.

My notice of motion is at the link below. I'd like to think this initiative will have broad support.

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If Hawkesbury Council joined the trial, would this mean privately owned scooters could be used legally within the LGA as per the guidelines?

More Greenies propaganda. "Climate Crisis " is a scare campaign! FFS, now they want petrol "Whipper Snippers" and "Petrol Lawn Mowers" banned. Tell me how you can mow or weed wack 5 acres with a battery machine? What's next?, your diesel tractor, your generator? Pileburns....they want them banned! Woodheaters...want them banned! Get real!

Definitely supported, thank you. Would also be ideal to include use of privately owned scooters being legalised in NSW.

Many cities around QLD also have fantastic cycleways that improve connectivity and liveability. People conveniently cycle/scooter to work, including people in full suits and briefcases. We don’t have sufficient walking paths, let alone cycle ways in the Hawkesbury. It is something I have been suggesting for a while on the have your say surveys. I think these improved cycleways and walkways need to be implemented first.

I don’t think the Hawkesbury is a suitable place to trial this. We don’t have enough suitable pathways and our population is spread out considerably. It would be better suited to suburban cities with a more dense/concentrated population.

What’s wrong with people? Are they afraid to walk where they want to go? These scooters are ok but not on the footpaths in the shopping centres.

Build more bike lanes first around the Hawkesbury and then they can use the scooters there.

I like the idea in theory but the main reason I leave the house is to shop or teach and both require me to carry a lot of stuff. If I lived in the city and wanted to get a loaf of bread or a coffee or go see a movie, then it would make sense.

I'm all for as long as I can ride an unregistered 250 dirt bike on the foot paths and roads legally

Having spent some time on one around Austin TX, I agree they are incredibly convenient and an efficient way to get around a city. BUT... Most of the sidewalks had already been configured with concrete ramps at intersections. And Austin is a fairly young 'hip' town. There were no helmet laws for scooter riders when I was there (2019). And you could ride on both the sidewalk and the street as you saw fit. Hawkesbury has an older average demographic. You should be asking 70 year olds how they feel about sharing the footpath with young folk whistling up beside them at speed on razor-sharp deathcycles (I'm not kidding -when you have paper-thin skin and bleed from a scrape that you wouldn't have even noticed in your 50s, e-scooters look like something out of Mad Max) If they make them legal, will there be helmet laws? Will they be confined to the street only? Will there be minimum age? Will they need to be registered?

Yes I think they are a convenient mobility scooter for older people that easily fits in a vehicle and easy to lift.

Hell no, the drivers on the roads in the hawkesbury are shocking, we don't need them on the footpaths too

Absolutely not, they will just get dumped were ever someone feels like leaving them, just like the electric bikes

And when an elderly or vulnerable person is injured by one are they compensated.? Not everyone is considering others. What is the injury data? Accident data ? More research required.

Not on the footpaths. Separate riding track for them.

All these places have more footpaths than the Hawkesbury. You can get from Moonah to Hobart and have a footpaths all the way. Same with getting from northbourne Ave in canberra to parliament house.

If I purchase an electric scooter, its illegal to ride anywhere except private property. But some company can rent them out and you can ride them publicly almost anywhere. How does thst work?

Love the idea .

Didn't Bondi have a lot of problems with pedestrians being hit?

No There Dangerous To Perdestrians

Bree Putland perhaps a new mode of transport to drive into the potholes?

A friend of mine in the inner west rides an e scooter all over the place. I did not realise they were not legal.

Great idea Nathan. Scooters are only dangerous in the hands of an idiot like most other things. Anything the promotes more people out of cars is a good thing. Too many people jump in their car for trips less than 1km, lazy, unless you’re old or debilitated.

You have obviously never been run down by a idiot riding one on the footpath- so dangerous especially with the elderly and small children around- there us no fixing stupid and sadly they are many

As someone who rode a manual scooter for years. For the scared, here is a tip to not get hit , by anyone, don't freak out when someone is approaching. Just be normal because 9 out of 10 times you are being erratic and jumping in the way, just let them move around you. That stupid person riding an electric scooter could instead be on a manual scooter, bike or driving a car. Please pursue this Nathan.

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Our river communities have had an awful time over the last two years. Flood after flood have left them bowed, but unbroken.

I went to a very well attended meeting tonight, hosted by the Paradise Cafe at Lower Portland to listen to locals talk about their experiences and to discuss what can be done. 

These people live and trade at ground zero. 
Where we met and sat — the water only a month ago would have been over our heads and up to the windowsills in the pictures below. 

It’s their homes and livelihoods at stake. The message I heard was clear: change the legislation to allow Warragamba Dam to be drawn down in seasons of high rainfall. Cut red tape for landowners needing to remediate their riverbanks and properties either riddled with sinkholes or buried in sand. Fix the damaged roads and bridges. And most of all: commit to raising Warragamba Dam as a matter of bipartisan urgency. 

I was heartened to be joined by Robyn Preston MP - Member for Hawkesbury, my fellow Hawkesbury Councillors Les Sheather and Eddie Dogramaci,  Dr Peter Gangemi - Mayor of The Hills Shire Council and The Hills Shire Council colleagues Councillor Mitchell Blue and Virginia Ellis. 

Butterfly Farm & Ski Gardens and Indy 800 Kart Track
Nepean Belle Paddlewheeler
Lower Portland Community
Lower Portland RFB
Lower Portland On The Hawkesbury
Juniors on Hawkesbury
Newalls Caravan Park
Hawkesbury Riverside Gardens
Hawkesbury Riverside Retreat
Dargle Water Ski Park
Torrens Water Ski Gardens and Caravan Park
Ulinbawn Ski Park Sackville
Residents of Sackville Ski Gardens
Sackville Ski Gardens
Tizzana Winery
Bielany Camp Colo River
Colo River Holiday Park (CRHP)
Colo River Hideaway
Colo River Holiday Park

Our river communities have had an awful time over the last two years. Flood after flood have left them bowed, but unbroken.

I went to a very well attended meeting tonight, hosted by the Paradise Cafe at Lower Portland to listen to locals talk about their experiences and to discuss what can be done.

These people live and trade at ground zero.
Where we met and sat — the water only a month ago would have been over our heads and up to the windowsills in the pictures below.

It’s their homes and livelihoods at stake. The message I heard was clear: change the legislation to allow Warragamba Dam to be drawn down in seasons of high rainfall. Cut red tape for landowners needing to remediate their riverbanks and properties either riddled with sinkholes or buried in sand. Fix the damaged roads and bridges. And most of all: commit to raising Warragamba Dam as a matter of bipartisan urgency.

I was heartened to be joined by Robyn Preston MP - Member for Hawkesbury, my fellow Hawkesbury Councillors Les Sheather and Eddie Dogramaci, Dr Peter Gangemi - Mayor of The Hills Shire Council and The Hills Shire Council colleagues Councillor Mitchell Blue and Virginia Ellis.

Butterfly Farm & Ski Gardens and Indy 800 Kart Track
Nepean Belle Paddlewheeler
Lower Portland Community
Lower Portland RFB
Lower Portland On The Hawkesbury
Juniors on Hawkesbury
Newall's Caravan Park
Hawkesbury Riverside Gardens
Hawkesbury Riverside Retreat
Dargle Water Ski Park
Torrens Water Ski Gardens and Caravan Park
Ulinbawn Ski Park Sackville
Residents of Sackville Ski Gardens
Sackville Ski Gardens
Tizzana Winery
Bielany Camp Colo River
Colo River Holiday Park (CRHP)
Colo River Hideaway
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There where approximately another 40 residents that sent their apologies as they could not safely return from the meeting late in the evening on the flood detour. They are still, after a year and a half, asking for support access in response to flood recovery from the riverbank damage.

I don't think anyone can wait for your Damn Dam wall to be raised to be honest. Can you please put some pressure on getting the water slowly released from the dam starting immediately. That's what everyone is begging for.its not rocket science and it may save people in the next predicted flood coming very soon.

To raise Warragamba Dam wall does nothing due to flood waters coming out of Erskine Creek and Grose River - the latter was significant in contributing to Hawkesbury floods of March 2021. Legislation ought be altered immediately to allow for drawdown - or the new 100% level ought be the current 70% level, say.

I’d be interested to know what was said about the dam raising as it is portrayed here as the highlight of the meeting.

Any comment regarding this article Councillor Nathan Zamprogno "The NSW Government has ruled out drawing down Warragamba Dam ahead of the next major flood event leaving residents and business at the mercy of the weather. The news comes as the Premier today announced that he has axed Resilience NSW, in a stunning admission that the government’s emergency services and disaster management has failed. The announcement comes ahead of what is expected to be a damning report into the NSW government's flood response and as the state faces another major weather event with dams at full capacity, soils soaked, rivers full and riverbank land collapsed. But rather than bring in measures to help protect flood ravaged communities from the next flood, the government has moved to shift the blame for the for its own abject failures to respond to any recent disasters by sacking national hero and head of Resilience NSW, Shane Fitzsimmons. Following four major floods, no measures have been taken to protect the valley from the next flood which will cause unprecedented damage to farms, property, residences and businesses. In response to questions from Hawkesbury Matters this week, the NSW government confirmed it has no plans to draw down Warragamba Dam (at all) ahead of the next flood event leaving the Hawkesbury community to its watery fate...again. Hawkesbury Matters asked the Premier’s office four questions about flood preparedness before the next rain event. Just one was answered confirming no action would be taken to mitigate Warragamba Dam to protect the community. Pointing to a 2021 government document, the Premier’s office cites water security as the primary reason for taking no action to protect the valley ahead of the next flood. Document can be read here: nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/... The document also claims Warragamba Dam isn’t large enough to provide meaningful benefits in a flood should it be mitigated. This is inconsistent with their own analysis which established that the Windsor peak would have been reduced by two metres in March 2021 had the dam been drawn down 12m. Since 2020 the NSW government has dithered on the subject of rainfall independent water supply by looking at alternatives including desalination and grey water. This is seen to be critical to protect the state from both droughts and the impacts of flooding. Flooding in NSW is estimated to have cost the economy $5.1 billion. Riverbanks are continuing to fall into the river on a daily basis, thousands of acres of land have been rendered unusable and businesses have closed. The government’s response to the crisis has left the community in despair. Not only has the government failed to bring in new measures to protect residents and property, but residents are still required to go through the long and expensive process of obtaining development approvals to protect their land from the next flood which may be just weeks away. Here are HM’s four questions to the Premier and his one answer: 1. Last week the Hawkesbury Mayor, Patrick Connolly said that the NSW government would not allow Warragamba Dam to be drawn down 12m to help mitigate against flooding. Could you please let me know whether this is correct and provide me with the Government's official view on using the current dam as a flood mitigation dam and drawing it down by 12m? Response - "Thank you for your inquiry. A useful resource regarding the operation of Warragamba Dam is available on the Infrastructure NSW website as part of the Resilient Valley, Resilient Communities communications and is available here warragamba-dam-and-flooding_faqs.pdf (nsw.gov.au). This has been put together by the relevant NSW Government agencies. Further information is available here: Infrastructure NSW : Publications and Resources Kind regards, Office of the NSW Premier" 2. The State government has taken responsibility for the damaged levy bank at Cornwallis. Could you please outline what is being done to repair the damaged levy bank and land at Cornwallis before the next expected flood event this spring? No response 3. Will the state government be arranging for drainage in the Richmond Lowlands and Cornwallis to be cleared ahead of the next flood event? If so, could you please outline what steps are being taken for this to happen? No response 4. Will changes be made to flood grants eligibility for Primary Producers who are not classified as primary producers under the flood grants? For example, the equine industry and other industries are classified as Primary Producers for ATO purposes but are excluded from the flood grants because they are not classified as Primary Producers for the purposes of the grants. No response"

Julie Sullivan

Were all Clrs invited to this meeting ?

Was our mayor There

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I was pleased to represent Patrick Conolly - Mayor of Hawkesbury at a public lecture given tonight by one of Australia’s national living treasures, the Reverend Tim Costello, hosted by the Catholic Education Diocese of Parramatta. 
As a teacher of ethics, I was drawn to the subject of the lecture, which was “The Role of Ethical Leadership in Delivering a Fairer and More Ethical Society”. 
I found plenty that I both agreed and disagreed with, which is as it should be!

I was pleased to represent Patrick Conolly - Mayor of Hawkesbury at a public lecture given tonight by one of Australia’s national living treasures, the Reverend Tim Costello, hosted by the Catholic Education Diocese of Parramatta.
As a teacher of ethics, I was drawn to the subject of the lecture, which was “The Role of Ethical Leadership in Delivering a Fairer and More Ethical Society”.
I found plenty that I both agreed and disagreed with, which is as it should be!
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👍 Good that you attended. I would be interested to know what you agreed and disagreed with.

Very true Nathan 👍🏻

Viva la debate!

What a fantastic subject!

“Ethical leadership” is impossible in a society like ours where everyone has their own set of ethical values. Whose “ethics” shall the so-called leader promote?

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When the Redbank developers promised they'd build a bridge across the Grose River back in 2012, they said the bridge would be completed by the time the development had sold 641 lots.

It's now ten years later, the Redbank estate has sold over 700 lots, and not a single sod has been turned. Most of the blame lays with Council, who inked a weak planning agreement with the developers, and who then changed their mind about where they wanted the bridge and approach roads to be built when the first location was recognised as a poor choice.

I've had a lot to say about this before (see link below, to my earlier explainer video), and last week Council faced the latest twist. Finally, a revised route and agreement has been placed on exhibition, but some, like the Wilcox family reported widely in the media, are facing a heavy cost.

I am not satisfied that we have explored every option to both get the project back on track, and to spare homes from unecessary demolition. Public submissions on the new VPA are invited now.

My earlier explainer from last August: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuF-kUkjoSY

Link to make a submission during the VPA exhibition period: www.yourhawkesbury-yoursay.com.au/grose-river-bridge-yarramundi
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Let’s hope Mr Zamprogno that you are as open and transparent after you have have your behind the scenes meeting with the council staff reviewing why the Starr Property was to be avoided. Listening to the General Manager trying to deceive councillors and the public by suggesting it was to impact less properties is reprehensible given the proposed route impacts more land owners and she is well aware of this. That the Hawkesbury Mayor simply says they can’t find crucial documents explaining why the Wilcox’s farm should be acquired is not acceptable to the community and should not be acceptable to our elected councillors who supposedly representing us.

Then I think there are three major issues that need to be resolved. 1. The council and/or employees of the council be held accountable over the handling of this project and the immense pain that this has put on the Wilcox Family in particular and 2. That the original or alternate route that uses vacant land or at least minimises the impact to owners land be sort after and agreed to. And then finally 3. The bridge be built.

Before I could support this bridge I would like three answers. 1) Traffic impact at Springwood Rd and Castlereagh Rd intersection at peak hour 2) Traffic study on vehicles passing Grose View School during pick up and drop off times 3) Expected travel times during floods from North Richmond to Penrith because there will be a lot of vehicles trying to access this route and some people suspect a traffic jam from Glossodia to Springwood.

Council has a lot to answer for, build the bridge! Unfortunately not 100% of people are going to be happy where ever it is less talk more action required.

Nathan. The General Manager states that up to 5 or 6 properties may need to be partially acquired to amend the route, this is incorrect! If they partially acquired 6 properties on Grose River Rd that would be over 1 kilometre of property acquisitions including my property. The reality would be 1 additional partial acquisition. The other important question is what speed are they designing this bridge too because this will impact the design. If the bridge is being designed to the downgraded speed of Grose River Rd at 60km/h they may not even need to acquire 1 additional property. I suspect they are designing the bridge route speed to 80 or 100km to over exaggerate the land required to compulsory acquire. No more smoke and mirrors please!

How about a bridge that starts at where the new round about is being built on the cross between Grose view and Grose River Road that goes straight over Navua Reserve with minimal impact and all the way to Castlereagh Road so when the next floods hit there is an exit route. Saves time with people heading to Penrith for work and lowers the traffic heading towards the North Richmond Bridge..... just saying it would make so much sense 🤷‍♀️

Get the bridge built NOW no more bloody delays.

So if the Grose river bridge is funded by Redbank communities and was part of the development deal what and where is the crossing approved and announced by the federal government last year please?

If it was a Redbank development condition: GET THE BRIDGE BUILT..

Redbank has been playing the game for years trying to get out of it grubs

Wow some truths well done

Wow, you would have thought this deal was signed and sealed before any development began?

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Channel Nine's A Current Affair program broadcast a strong story on Monday night about the plight of landowners who are sick of waiting for the State Government to act on the flood risk to the Hawkesbury Nepean River.

Brad Trethowan from Pitt Town is sick of his property flooding for the third time in two years.
Paul Saad from Southern Cross Turf and Graham and Troy from Dad & Dave’s Turf rue the delay to the dam raising project that could have spared their farms from inundation.

Lowering the full storage level will make a small difference, but it isn't enough. Stuart Ayres MP, let’s get this done.
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The environmental damage to the hawkesbury river from these three major flood events has been devastating the animals have been wiped out many well established trees gone river banks destroyed but that professor doesn’t discuss that even one month on there is rubbish and plastic everywhere like the friendship bridge at Pitt town Bottoms shown in that story

This guy needs to come and help clean up somebody’s flooded house

This is also our 2nd flood this year with water in our house but not our first flood. The thing is we can talk about this till we are blue in the face nothing will be done. Everyone has been talking about this 10 years ago and 10 years later we are still talking about it. The Greenies will never let it happen and the Govt don’t have the balls to do it. Unfortunately us of the Hawkesbury have to continue to live with this while the rule makers fight with each other. I have had enough also. Something has to be done and done now. We are well aware that another significant rain event is happening this year in Sept/Oct why can’t we start releasing water now bit by bit instead of waiting till we are in full flight of the floods. Raise the wall, release water earlier and stop building little communities in the area where their stormwater affects the flood plains running into the creeks. Hawkesbury is acreage not houses with no backyard and 10 families in one house. Sorry but it is frustrating and annoying to see this happening. This is not progress this is councils money raising and being selfish. Rant over

ok, I'm not against raising wall but has anyone investigated whether it is safe to do this? Need a very detailed engineering report on whether current wall/foundations can support higher wall & more water pressure.

Make the Dam bigger ! Dig out more channels. Regarding the wall, its getting old and may need maintenance in the near future. We need more Dams built while we are in a glut of rain atm build it to catch it all. Because the droughts will come back and last a few years again as history keeps showing us. They could also look into building another dam further up from warragamba with another wall, that can pump the water through. I feel for all those people effected, very sad

I'm very much affected by this flooding also 3 times is the last 18 months and to say I'm over it is an understatement. But let's look at this logically the dam was built to hold water not release it below the spillway correct. Yes the dam has a spillway once it reaches 95% but I can't see any reason why they would have built it so we can just dump water below the spillway just seems silly. In my opinion raising the wall is the best option but I'm sure that will take 4 to 5 years to complete and by then all this rain will be over.

Yes release the water now sos Flood due in Sept And yes to dam wall but that will take another 10 years !!! Investigate - pump the water pipe the water make energy from the moving water !!! Stop the flooding !!!

The rules for the dam to be used purely for water storage were drafted in 1962, 60 years ago!! That is 4 or 5 million people ago. The Greater Sydney Met has grown phenomenally since then. The amount of storm water runoff, and change to the landscape, must force change to dam management in the short term - NOW!!

Has the Sild ever been cleaned out of the 50 years it's been there is that why they want let it out b4 the weather event because of the capacity of sluge higher than the water level Sydney might run out out of water sorry to all that was effected but it's only going to get worse we r screwed in September to October another flood has been listed to happen 5 meters higher that means even Parramatta wil flood and the only way out is up the Blue Mountains oh but hang on the rivers are b4 mountains so how do we evacuate

Wait until the new airport is finished South Creek inlet to the hawesbury wil b double the amount of water so the wall isn't going to help

Rubbish re raising the dam wall - it is scaremongering. They won’t be in power when the wall is raised anyway.

Change the legislation- no to raising the dam wall. Listen to the people.

More water/Higher wall is not the answer, built a dual purpose tunnel through the mountains

Or ban births

Build another dam near it all the access water can go to Sydney's back up dam

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This Hawkesbury river height at Windsor on the Monday of the flood period. The flat line is the river from Thursday till after Midnight Sunday. The steep line is when the Dam spilled. The dam was around 97% leading up to the weekend meaning if you spit in it they would have to spill. What the minister is more concerned about in regards to spilling is not the loss of drinking water it is the revenue lost from dumping water into the river as water Nsw sells water to Sydney water, ker-ching over lives . To hold 97% water in the dam when a predicted rain event is coming is criminally negligent and quite possibly could lead to involuntary manslaughter. Councillor Nathan Zamprogno what is the official word on the rumours doing the rounds now of another flood in sept/ oct? Numbers around 19 mtrs have been mentioned by 2 people I’ve spoken to. If long term forecasters are predicting something like that we all need to know.

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Tbh I don’t really care what happened at the north Richmond bridge but the flood in my backyard WAS directly related to the dam. If the dam had been 80% not 97% the 2.2 mtrs of water I had I most likely wouldn’t have had. The last one had the idiots spilling between 300-350 gig, on the big day they spilled at 400 gig and I went 1.95 under. The report from the early 90’s flood even said poor dam management and a king high tide was responsible then and called for better waterway management

So this guy thinks it’s better to flood thousands of houses because there’s caves with rock art in them what a load of shit

Water officials have said (on public forums) that Waragamba will never be used as flood mitigation damn, even if raised.

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Last week Council met for the first time since the July floods. The Mayor advanced a motion that calls on the State Government to change legislation regulating the operation of Warragamba Dam to permit the Dam to be lowered in times of likely high-rainfall which will provide a degree of flood mitigation ability.

I supported the motion, but I want to be very clear that lowering the *operating level* of the dam is not a substitute for *raising* the dam wall, which remains the best way to properly mitigate floods. Lowering the dam level might have taken 20-60cm off the level of the flood. Raising the dam would have taken off 3.5 *metres*, based on the smaller March 2021 flood.

As I say here, climate change will deal us times of greater variability of weather in coming years. Longer periods of flood *and* longer periods of drought. The reductions being sought by some at our meeting last Tuesday would have let the whole dam run dry prior to the end of the last drought in February 2020. That's just as irresponsible. I see a lot of people advancing positions in the teeth of scientific evidence they're wrong, and that's no way for us to get to the best solution.
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Perhaps you need to take advice from the experts eg Professors Brian Cook and Tim Werner (Uni of Melbourne), professor Dale Dominey-Howes (Uni of Sydney) Professor Elizabeth Mossop (UTS), Professor Jamie Pittock (ANU) et al, all of whom say that raising the dam wall is not the answer!

There are 150000 people living in the valley 5000 of them are affected by flood waters, how about looking after the 150000 by putting your effort into a flood free road through the Hawkesbury . You have a great opportunity with the new bridge at nth Richmond to go from the pub at Nth Richmond to Richmond and from the RAAF base to the Jim Anderson bridge and create a flood free access for the 150000 at much less cost. This would be a better way to spend NSW Government money than on rasing the dam wall which the Government's own report says wont work.

Climate Change ( yeah, what ever. Load of Greenies shite) has nothing to do with the cycle of weather patterns! Uni professors are paid to come up with this type of crap. Weather goes in cycles! Always has,always will! This is nothing new! Raise the wall to become a storage and flood mitigation dam, and dredge the river!

Nathan really? Please get up to speed. You are falling for the Liberal party line hook, line and sinker. The EIS is full of bias. Lower the current dam 12m and serve your community NOW. I think you are a dedicated councillor but your blinkers need to come off. Sit down with Stuart Kahn.

I am all for better flood mitigation, but I am personally concerned that not enough consideration has been given to what would happen when flooding events occur in quick succession as they have done in this year, and many other times throughout recorded history. If the dam wall were to be raised and then filled, I assume the draw down back to a normal level would take months without causing significant flooding downstream. If there were to be another flooding event in quick succession the mitigating affect of a raised wall would potentially be severely compromised and have very little, if any impact on flooding downstream. Given the frequency such events have occurred in the past, coupled the fact that other tributaries often contribute far greater than the dam to Hawkesbury valley flooding, I’m not convinced the enormous expense and environmental impact involved with raising the wall would be justified.

More dams is the answer not raising the current one. There are sights that a dam or dams can be built...that is the answer.

Councillor Nathan Zamprogno since you only provided one PDF link regarding the raising of the dam wall. I went and found the relevant documents for the proposal. The information that I requested along with others, but you failed to provide the link to interested parties. Warragamba Dam was never meant to be a flood mitigation dam. As I have said to you several times in these posts that 5 Rivers and Creeks flow into the Hawkesbury Valley below Warragamba dam wall. These rivers and Tributaries all contribute to flooding of the Hawkesbury Valley. Increased development in Northwestern Western and Southwestern Sydney has allowed for faster run off to flow into these Rivers and Creeks. The message does not seem to be sinking in regarding this fact. I want to know who will have blood on their hands if the Dam wall is raised and it fails? How many hundreds of thousands of people will die? As there is no way that people will be able to be evacuated in time from the following suburbs: Wallacia Glenmore Rise Glenmore Ridge South Penrith Penrith Emu Plains Riverside Estate Kingswood Agnes Banks Plus a whole hose of Suburbs that will be in the path of the water. For anyone who is interested here is the proposal documents regarding Warragamba Dam. Also there is a video at the bottom of this post stating Warragamba Dam is not a flood mitigation dam. www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/major-projects/projects/warragamba-dam-raising www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v-cz7fjtLk

Out of curiosity which councillors if any apposed any action?

Wrong way, need to go higher

Councillor Nathan Zamprogno I have not been able to locate the exact reason why the insurance council of Australia is against raising the dam wall? Also this concerns me, NSW Emergency Services Minister David Elliott says raising the Warragamba Dam wall could pave the way for the release of more land for development in Sydney’s north-west. Why would we raise the wall to allow this and have the problem reoccur?

Hold the development body accountable too bad if it costs them extra to avoid an existing home

Councillor Nathan Zamprogno should read a little more.

Sorry...but the cost to raise the wall is is Totally over the top to protect HOUSES BUILT ON A FLOOD PLAIN.. The modelling will be wrong The cost will blow up & up & up

I in no way support the raising of the damn wall. Reducing the damn levels when predicted rainfall is expected, which may cause damage. I absolutely support

What is the Hawkesbury City Council and NSW Liberal Party doing right now to mitigate against the next flood event? (Hand wringing, empathy and philosophising does not count).

Pre-release is not the same as lowering the water level.

Prof Pittock makes a lot of sense but vested interests won't listen.

Don’t worry nothing will happen with any of it because our government is so gutless and useless at actually doing anything proactive. They think it’s ok to just throw some token disaster money at it and show up for a few interviews in the disaster zone to pretend they actually give a crap! Which the don’t really. I’m totally over hoping that anything constructive will actually ever happen. Too green, woke and spineless to stand up and make a decision the lot of them!

Adjusting the nominal "full" level based on measurable scientific data makes a lot of sense. The fact that much of the flood water enters Nepean tributaries downstream of the dam means that other amelioration actions also need to be looked at. Do you know if anybody has looked seriously at options such as notched (flow volume restricting) weirs on tributaries and overflow bypass tunnels on the winding parts of the Hawkesbury that restrict the ability of the water to escape to the ocean? www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=109741985136880&id=108055818638830

Or you could create a secondary dam and dredge the river. Raising the dam wall is one solution, but not the only solution.

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This story doesn’t say so explicitly, but it sounds like they’ve caught at least some of the Mayor’s attackers. 
I hope they throw the book at them.

This story doesn’t say so explicitly, but it sounds like they’ve caught at least some of the Mayor’s attackers.
I hope they throw the book at them.Four teenagers charged following two aggravated home invasions in Bligh Park & Wilmott

Four teenagers have been charged following an investigation into a number of aggravated home invasions in Sydney’s north, one which left a man in hospital.

About 11.35pm on Sunday 15 May 2022, a group forced entry to a home on Captain Cook Drive, Willmot, near Mt Druitt, and allegedly assaulted two occupants – a 30-year-old woman and a 42-year-old man – before stealing personal items from the home.

A teenage girl was at the home at the time but was uninjured.

Then about 12.45am the next morning (Monday 16 May 2022), police attended a home on Porpoise Crescent, Bligh Park, after reports several men had forced entry to the home and threatened a 32-year-old man, before he was stabbed to the upper arm.

The group fled the scene in a vehicle, while the man was taken to Westmead Hospital in a stable condition; he has since recovered.

A woman and four children were also at home at the time of the incident but were uninjured.

Officers attached to Hawkesbury Police Area Command commenced an investigation into both incidents, prior to detectives from the State Crime Command’s Robbery and Serious Crime Squad taking carriage under Strike Force Dites.

Following extensive inquiries, strike force investigators – with assistance of Raptor Squad officers – executed a search warrant at a home in Macquarie Fields about 11.20am yesterday (Tuesday 19 July 2022).

A 16-year-old boy later attended Campbelltown Police Station about 4.50pm, where he was arrested and charged with robbery in company while armed with dangerous weapon, specially aggravated break and enter and commit serious indictable offence-wound, steal motor vehicle, drive conveyance taken without consent, be carried in conveyance taken without consent, never licenced person drive vehicle on road and participate in criminal group.

He was refused bail to appear at a children’s court later today (Wednesday 20 July 2022).

Three further teenage boys – two aged 17 and one aged 18 – were arrested at St Marys Police Station.

The 18-year-old was charged with eight offences including be carried in conveyance taken without consent of owner, in company rob while armed with dangerous weapon, special aggravated break and enter commit serious indictable offence, steal motor vehicle, drive conveyance taken without consent of owner, never licensed person drive vehicle on road and participate criminal group contribute criminal activity.

One of the 17-year-old’s was charged with robbery in company while armed with dangerous weapon, specially aggravated break and enter and commit serious indictable offence-wound, possess unauthorised pistol, steal motor vehicle, drive conveyance taken without consent, be caried in conveyance taken without consent and participate in criminal group.

The second 17-year-old was charged with robbery in company while armed with dangerous weapon, specially aggravated break and enter and commit serious indictable offence-wound, steal motor vehicle, be caried in conveyance taken without consent (x2) and participate in criminal group.

The 18-year-old was refused bail to appear at Penrith Local Court today, while the younger boys were both remanded in custody to appear at a children’s court today.

Investigations under Strike Force Dites are ongoing.

Anyone with information that may assist Strike Force Dites investigators is urged to contact Crime Stoppers: 1800 333 000 or nsw.crimestoppers.com.au. Information is treated in strict confidence. The public is reminded not to report information via NSW Police social media pages.
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Great work cops - we thank you !!!!

Thank you for providing information on the exact charges. We never get to hear them through the media.

That is great news.

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Good job

Great news..

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Just before the floods overtook us all, I attended the Australian Local Government Association conference down in Canberra, an annual meeting that pulls together the 537 local governments around Australia.

Our focus is the bigger picture of local government as it relates to the nation as a whole. Presciently, a lot of what we heard about was about the increasing cost of natural disasters, and the disproportionate burden placed on Councils in the repair and cleanup.

I wanted to present you a report of what I learned, and how I took these issues direclty to decision makers in our nation's capital, so I made this video.

I pushed through a reform back in February which demanded Councillors give an account to you after they are sent to conferences to prove that ratepayers were getting value. The Labor and Liberal Councillors have disappointingly since rescinded this accountability measure, but I don't answer to them - I answer to you!

At the link below I give a selection of further data gained from the many conference presentations:

councillorzamprogno.info/2022/07/15/the-australian-local-government-assembly-what-hawkesbury-can-...
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Nathan and Mary great representatives for Hawkesbury..thank you both for your hard work and efforts.

Councils re flooding also are approving development too easily. Need to draw new zones and push back against the developer machine.

Appreciate that you are transparent and report back. thaqnk you.

Great summary. Thanks Nathan.

E scooters are fantastic. We have them in Darwin. Such a great way to get around!

can we get those e scooters approved for use in the Hawkesbury please ?

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Councillor Nathan Zamprongo as soon as I am feeling better ....unfortunately struck down with the flu and not well! I want to meet you and thankyou in person!! Thankyou for doing your best in keeping us informed and keeping us up to date with your posts and videos !! Truly thank you very very much!!

Shouldn't we be focussiing on providing flood free access, which includes prioritising the new North Richmond and Yarramundi crossings, ensuring that are actually high enough (unlike Windsor bridge) and not building any more new homes in the flood plain and engineering a route that does not involve a four hour drive to get to work from North side of the river? I'm not hearing anyone confident that the raising of the dam will anything other than delay the inevitable and give people false sense of security. At this point with us being 20 metres above, we can see the whole of not only South Windsor but much more of the Hawkesbury being impacted if heavy rain were to persist when the dam was already full.

I drove across nth richmond bridge at 10am this morning had to get to the RTA

Councillor Nathan Councillor Nathan Zamprongo not a single cent has been allocated to the project by the state government. They also need half of the money from the federal government. Do you think that they are going to support this developers thought bubble. Mr Minns has also refused to support the project…probably because it’s a bandaid on a broken leg. Moreover on the March 21 event the airspace above the proposed expansion would have filled and overtopped in 2 days. Then there is two weeks of maintained flooding as the water is released. This will only benefit in certain flood conditions. In extreme conditions the Govts own modelling shows a raised dam will only reduce a flood height marginally (its all going under anyway), still far higher than in recent events. This makes other mitigation’s like better evacuation routes, stronger development regulations and long term buy back more important. It’s just a developer driven dam. The games up. In reality everything you said was wrong, not Jake Van Rijin, that’s why the EIS I’ve seen you attach to comments was universally rubbished and was the exact reason the dam wasn’t raised years ago.

Yesterday represented the worst day of flooding in the Hawkesbury in 44 years.
This flood exceeded 13.93m, beating both the March flood (13.71m) and the 2021 flood (12.91m), each measured at the Windsor gauge.

I toured the district, commiserated with locals, and took note of what I saw. This video represents the waters as they peaked. Councillors are being briefed daily by Council staff and we're proactive in guiding the response to the emergency.
I am reminded yet again how magnificently we stand by one another in times of trial. Our community is strong, and the only way we can get through this, is together.

If you live in the Hawkesbury and appreciate this content, please consider both following my page and sharing. In my role as a Hawkesbury Councillor, I try hard to listen, connect and inform.
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Nathan it has been an horrendous year for flooding in the Hawkesbury. There has been a lot of banter about raising the Warragamba Dam wall. In my opinion this will not prevent flooding in the Hawkesbury. The farmers have lost a lot of their land which has now silted up the river. Dredge the river and return the soil to the land owners. Better water release management of the Dam would prevent the flood reaching the height it did and the excessive quick rise and flow. That is my input.

Raise the dam wall🤦🏽‍♀️yes so when something goes wrong there is twice as much water and no more floods plains for it to go because councils/ governments allowed for it to be overdeveloped.

Thanks for the video Councillor Nathan Zamprogno hopefully we can all stand together with governments to proactively do something to better manage these natural disasters that are becoming more and more frequent!! To our SES volunteers thankyou and thankyou.

Raising the wall would not have affected this outcome as the amount of water that fell would have exceeded to new height. Also has anyone seen a study that would show the environmental impact/destruction caused upstream from capturing the amount of water the new height would allow? Also is it not true that raising the height of the dam wall would allow some areas in the hawkesbury to have their flood status rezoned meaning anyone with certain areas of land in the hawkesbury would benefit from this by suddenly allowing them to develop these areas?

Thanks for a very informative video and getting out to see how the LGA you represent has been affected. I grew up in Oakville on Saunders road and was there for the 90’s floods we never had water in the house but looks like it may have happened this flood. I now live in Windsor and many of my friends have been affected by the floods. I don’t believe raising the dam wall solves the problem. I think the wall being raised is about having more water for Sydney to use and does not provide protections to the flood plain. But in this great democracy we can have differing opinions. Thanks again for the updatr

So.. what can the council do to prevent development on the Blacktown side of the floodplain.. The rate at which the river rose was fast, more houses roofs and pipes will only increase that in the future. Less ground for water to soak into has obvious run off implications. Hope you read this and take up the fight.

Thanks for another update on what Council is doing throughout this Councillor Nathan Zamprogno. It’s good to see some councillors continuing to support our community outside of the election cycle.

Leave the warragamba dam at the same height and build a few dams further down the river and have those as the water regulator to allow a more controlled relief

Instead of spruiking for raising the Dam wall... hows about you use your so called influence to stop the over population and building in the Hawkesbury. As councillor you should have first hand knowledge that we do not have the infrastructure for this.

Sorry but even raising the wall will not stop flooding or the severity if you raise it 5mtr that would be the equivalent of what 2 Sydney harbours not to mention damage to the wildlife.When it fills at 97% again and we have the same rain front we got now we will still flood the same result if not worse. So sorry but it won't fix flooding.

So sad to see the community like this. Stay strong & safe everyone!

This is a wonderful documentary record. Please give to the library.

Sorry but by wanting to raise the dam wall you have just lost my & my families vote. You need to listen to the people & many people are saying No!!!

Thank you Nathan for a comprehensive coverage of our local community. 🙏🙏 Prays and hugs to all who have been devastated with These floods once again....

Unfortunately the severity of this flood in particular is a result of poor decisions not environmental conditions. The management of the dam state publically they are only interested in providing Sydneys water supply and not what happens down stream. This was evident when the first day of rain the dam was at 97% capacity not 91% as they are allowed to go. The Hawkesbury didn't get enough rain to cause this much damage. Yes the dam would have eventually spilled from the rain in the catchment but spreading out the water flow would have mitigated much of the disaster. And don't get me started on the incompetence of the engineers and those who believe that new estates have no impact on localised flooding.

Thankyou for documenting this disaster. I saw you in Thompson Square yesterday afternoon talking with a couple. Now I wish I'd interrupted. Pleased you were getting around the district seeing and hearing people's experiences first hand, and now sharing a record of places many of us couldn't get to.

Thank You for footage. Heartbreaking for My family out there. There must be a solution to prevent future floods. It’s a worry

Thank you Councillor Nathan, sadly you’ll never please everyone, I do hope that something can be worked out sooner rather than later as so many people are over this whole issue. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sadly, Council should never have approved residential areas in flood zones - however, while Greedy developers exist & are in bed with Councillors & Politicians uneducated home buyers will suffer….🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️😢

Well done Nathan - thank you 👏👏

Yet council and residents continue to build more and more homes and infrastructure adding to the problem. And clearly If the flood free route was flooded the planning of water run off from new developments wasn’t well planned at all. We have a massive amount of land where new infrastructure and residents can go with minimal adverse impact. Instead Government, Councils and alike haemorrhage millions cramming crap into the cities due to greed.

Stand by and make sure it doesn't happen again by piping the water out beforehand with the plan of many years ago. Do something not after the fact

Kelly Gardiner this is a good video of what’s happening on the other side of the river.

Great photos showing our poor community Nathan

Well i home you going to ask the harsd questions to why they did not do control water let go when we had good weather instead it let go when there no where for the water to go i now back to step one in my place as i spent almost 30 thousand last flood fixing my ace up and replacing lots of stuff now it all gone to waste as i got flooded worste this time and lost all downstair again

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Pitt Town locals braved the weather to attend the Pitt Town Progress Association meeting at Pitt Town Sports Club tonight.

Amid talk of floods, the recent cleanup of Bardenarang Creek, and prospective improvements to many community facilities that the Association has promoted, Peter Ryan announced he is retiring as President of the Association. 
Peter is, in every respect that matters Mr Pitt Town. A fifth generation local, hes been a member of the Association for over twenty years and President for six.
I have enjoyed a warm and productive relationship with Peter and with the residents group for many years, which is sure to continue under new President, Chris Bell. I wish Peter well, and suspect hell still have a lot to offer.

Pictured: With the executive of the PTPA, Vince Rayfield, Chris Bell, Peter Ryan and Steve Brown.

Pitt Town locals braved the weather to attend the Pitt Town Progress Association meeting at Pitt Town Sports Club tonight.

Amid talk of floods, the recent cleanup of Bardenarang Creek, and prospective improvements to many community facilities that the Association has promoted, Peter Ryan announced he is retiring as President of the Association.
Peter is, in every respect that matters "Mr Pitt Town". A fifth generation local, he's been a member of the Association for over twenty years and President for six.
I have enjoyed a warm and productive relationship with Peter and with the residents group for many years, which is sure to continue under new President, Chris Bell. I wish Peter well, and suspect he'll still have a lot to offer.

Pictured: With the executive of the PTPA, Vince Rayfield, Chris Bell, Peter Ryan and Steve Brown.
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Big shoes to fill! Thank you Peter for all that you done.

Congratulations Chris and well done Peter!

How did you get out there?

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